Weird hand glitch

[MattRed1996 24]

I getting a weid hand glitch when using sam and sam light in skyim LE any Ideas whats causing it?

[EsperAngel 3]

1 hour ago, MattRed1996 said:

I getting a weid hand glitch when using sam and sam light in skyim LE any Ideas whats causing it?

Thats a new one for sure. Did you install both SAM and SAMlight?

[MattRed1996 24]

I tried on after another with the same effects

 

[EsperAngel 3]

6 hours ago, MattRed1996 said:

I tried on after another with the same effects

 

would you post your load order?

[MattRed1996 24]

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[SavrenX 10,319]

Open all your cloth if you want to see something wrong with body. Some armor contain body replacer. If happen nude body just fine...then it's fine.

[EsperAngel 3]

11 hours ago, MattRed1996 said:

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I haven't tried the many custom npcs mods you're using,but  as Don posted earlier,you need to verify if the problem happens when you're naked or when you're equipping something.
Other than that,did you install SAM high poly?

[MattRed1996 24]

I have tried with SAM high poly with the same effects. the problem starts as soon as I use sam from either the MCM or Racemenu. the only thing I haven't checked is if it effects other npcs

[EsperAngel 3]

12 minutes ago, MattRed1996 said:

I have tried with SAM high poly with the same effects. the problem starts as soon as I use sam from either the MCM or Racemenu. the only thing I haven't checked is if it effects other npcs

try deactivating the racial morphs - both standard and extreme

[MattRed1996 24]

thats seems to have done it. not sure how because I had these mods installed before with no effects

[EsperAngel 3]

10 minutes ago, MattRed1996 said:

thats seems to have done it. not sure how because I had these mods installed before with no effects

racial morhps change the whole body system,so the SAM body would be restricted to certain races,and the hands/feet models and texture would be incompatible/improperly assigned.
If I may,you'll want to double check you don't have duplicate/useless esps,because from a small gloance as I was searching for body mods it appears to me there's some stuff that should be removed,like the enb extra stuff and realistic water 2.
Also,you're welcome

[MattRed1996 24]

thanks for the help

[MattRed1996 24]

ok, its back, different load order same problem. 

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[y_sengaku 280]

Do you use the latest Racemenu LE (3.4.5)?

Then, install HDT-PE even if you don't install and use HDT-enabled body and outfit meshes. 

The latest Racemenu does not work well without HDT-PE.

[SolusSkyrimPanda 32]

Me too... But the latest version would have, like, seamless hands though.