DarkIbis

It's working, the only thing I did here was add weight through Outfit Studio to the belly and other areas. I think that the reason that this worked for me is because the meshes that I've added I've also added the HDT vagina xml to them but I don't remember how I did this :D

So I forgot to add a link back to the .tri file in nifscope. So as it stands it is here as a resource.

So I found out the trick to this is to add the HDT Default Body BBP or whatever it's called and the HDT Vagina but I mean it can be renamed..... e_e ..... directly to the body through nifscope... It's the same for armor... after I added the HDT Vagina to the mesh and edited the weighting properly in OutfitStudo belly distortions were enabled. I also added HDTM to the penis meshes for SAM in the main character assets folder as well as in the SOS folder. However the values for the SAM body have to be high enough to cause an effect I have to put it at least to moderately high weighting in order to see the effect I'm not really sure why this is. But I did figure it out : The issue was actually setting the collision to be possible through a separate HDT Physics XML rather than through body weighting alone Once again how I did this for those of you like TLDNR (too long did not read): 1. get nifscope ---> 2. Open Nif 3. Expand NiNode 0 3a. Click under that in the list that you've expanded 4. Click Block ---> Insert ---> Click Nis ---> click NiStringsExtraData 4a. Type in the number of XMLS you want to attach to the object. 5.Under the second window (bottom left) name it HDT Havok Path 6. Under String Data Type in the full address to the HDT XML you want to use (see attached Screen Shot) (e.g.: Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtm.xml) 7. Press CTRL over the new thing you've created and move it up with the arrow keys until it's #1 under the expanded NiNode0 branch I found out that you can have a whole set of physics specifically tailored to the male body and an entirely different set effecting everything else so it's possible to enable distortions on the male body but not the female body, it's possible to set the penis mesh as a collision object which is awesome and it would make scenes with said collision object with a particular mod work properly the reason why is because the hdtm xml sets the penis mesh to collide with whatever has the appropriate collision box unchecked in the hdtHavokModifier program! Literally this turns the body into HDT-PE ... It has not broken any of my HDT Male armors. So yes this does the exact belly distortion crap that happens to females and makes the collisions for the bum and pecs very noticeable.. It's super jiggly but I like it that way because it's kind of funny seeing my follower's ass bounce around while he's trying to fight. SAM Belly Distortion.7z

Well what I've been doing to get the appropriate belly distortions is just using those body files and redoing the weighting manually to increase the weighting it works for me... that's it lol I don't know about HDTPE... I guess the havok object is considered to be HDTPE but Idk... I saw that they just attached the object to exactly above the tip of the penis for SOS, however because the length of the SAM penis and the SOS penis are a little bit the same I found no issue. The other havok object was measured to right below or at the belly button. I just made a new object in the creation kit for the plugin and pointing to the female body physics for that object using nifscope.

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I added weighting to the abdomen instead of re-configuring the xml files now the file should work as intended with distortion effecting the player and npcs as long as they equip the "bottom physics" item. I knew there was a way to do it in bodyslide I just had to do some research. For reference: Import the mesh with body slide's outfit studio by opening Outfit studio on the bodyslide program menu (bottom right corner) File ---> import----> import from .nif After your file gets loaded up go under the section "bones" Select any of the bounce bones (body/breast/butt) then use the weight paint brush to edit the bone weights Select "Shape" Then the option copy bone weights Then transfer bone weights Then go under file Export ----> export to .nif with reference (You should do this with the malebody_0 and the malebody_1 file or they'll have different weights) Increasing the values in the SAM menu " the Samson ---samuel sliders" in game does make the distortion effect more pronounced. The havok object causes the belly distortions to take place Once again there should be two objects: Breast physics ---> Top and female Bottom Physic ---> Bottom male and female In game male and female npcs will have the same object the bottom physics object is separate and you'll have to use additem menu to get it I use wyre bash to deactivate the dragonborn and dawnguagrd .esp files (they just auto add the object to those npcs). So there is a .esm and a .esp that is needed. The bigger the schlong the more exaggerated the effect will be. I f you don't want to equip the item in game then you can open body slide and manually attach the appropriate object to your mesh. I have no idea if that will work as intended. Obviously Havok Male.nif should go on the penis and Havok object.nif should go on the body you want to have the distortions on. ( I caution you to only add them to files in the SOS folder and don't use floppy SOS or your belly will be distorted by your own penis XD (Gives a new meaning to the phrase go-f-yourself lol) The male genitals file points to HDTm XML The male hands points to HDT fingers XML The male bottom havok object points to the Default BBP XML The Physics ExtensionsMaleBody is used by the Male Havok Object from the original download malebody_0.nif malebody_1.nif malebody.tri malegenitals_1.nif malegenitals_0.nif malegenitals.tri malegenitalskhajiit_0.nif malegenitalskhajiit_1.nif malegenitalsargonian.tri malegenitalsargonian_0.nif malegenitalsargonian_1.nif malegenitalskhajiit.tri malehands_0.nif malehands_1.nif malehands.tri hdtFingers.xml hdtm.xml hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml hdtPhysicsExtensionsMaleBody.xml hdtVagina.xml hdt.xml HDT Havok Object.nif HDT Havok Object Male.nif

It did last night, it's just a mp4 video ? I'll just upload it as a 7zip... Bouncy SAM + Collision.7z

I thought I did but it appears that I overwrote it with another file ? So let me re-download it now Update**** I used it and it's very nice! I still wonder if there is some way to add weighting to the abdomen to make the distention more visible. Or how do I do that :o?

So I used outfit studio to attach the referenced "bottom physics" object to the male body 0 & 1 .nif files. It resulted in the same collision being active without the use of the collision item, but still requires the HDT havok object male or "havok brest physic" object to be worn by the "top". I think I can attach the HDT Havok Object Male item to the Male genitals nif files and see how they react to the body. I just think that there is something right there in front of my face and I'm overlooking that would solve the entire issue and make it obsolete to use the plugin files. So the above said in another way ....If the bodies included an object that utilized the physics files (XMLs) then HDTPE plugins wouldn't need to be referenced in a separate file. malebody_0.nif malebody_1.nif