Furb's forsworn replacer for SAM 1.0.2

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Great conversion, although there are two problems I noticed with it : tattoos equipped with Racemenu won't show when wearing this armor, and there is a gap around genitals as well. I didn't see it at first because it's not that visible, but it's here. Just thought I would let you know! Anyway, thanks for your work!

On 9/5/2018 at 8:34 AM, Ranulf said:

Great conversion, although there are two problems I noticed with it : tattoos equipped with Racemenu won't show when wearing this armor, and there is a gap around genitals as well. I didn't see it at first because it's not that visible, but it's here. Just thought I would let you know! Anyway, thanks for your work!

I've been trying to mend those issues but unfortunately it seems to be beyond my knowledge and i have no idea how to fix'em.

If anybody knows how i'd be glad of the help.

The tattoo issue should be fixed by moving SAMBody up higher in the nif, before the other NiTriShapes.

For the gap, I explained how to fix that issue to someone else in this topic

13 hours ago, Cyrus said:

The tattoo issue should be fixed by moving SAMBody up higher in the nif, before the other NiTriShapes.

For the gap, I explained how to fix that issue to someone else in this topic

Okay, thank you! I will try that later when I've time enough and see if it's fixed. I just hope moving blocks in nif is just as easy as it is, I never tried that yet. ?

20 hours ago, Cyrus said:

The tattoo issue should be fixed by moving SAMBody up higher in the nif, before the other NiTriShapes.

For the gap, I explained how to fix that issue to someone else in this topic

Fixed! Thank you for the tips.

For future reference , to fix the tattoo issue ,not only should the SAM body be higher , a certain "BSDecalplacementVectroExtraData" node should be made present (by copy pasting from a nif that has it).

The gap was a lot more tedious to fix , i have absolutely no idea why it was there to begin with , and tried many other bodies , including the default one , and the ones you suggested like the giant cloth one, the high poly , hdt ...... none of them worked at all , had to manually sculpt the genital gap area willy-nilly to close it.

3 hours ago, zerosleepless said:

Fixed! Thank you for the tips.

For future reference , to fix the tattoo issue ,not only should the SAM body be higher , a certain "BSDecalplacementVectroExtraData" node should be made present (by copy pasting from a nif that has it).

The gap was a lot more tedious to fix , i have absolutely no idea why it was there to begin with , and tried many other bodies , including the default one , and the ones you suggested like the giant cloth one, the high poly , hdt ...... none of them worked at all , had to manually sculpt the genital gap area willy-nilly to close it.

Oh that's super strange. I get no gaps using those bodies.. I guess it might be related to something else.

Glad you found a workaround regardless.

I love this mod. However, body hair textures doesn't seem to be appearing and my PC become smooth and clean all of a sudden. Hope you could address this.

9 hours ago, bluemask said:

I love this mod. However, body hair textures doesn't seem to be appearing and my PC become smooth and clean all of a sudden. Hope you could address this.

Are you using the updated version?

I'm not sure but it has "fixed" on the filename.

12 hours ago, bluemask said:

I'm not sure but it has "fixed" on the filename.

It works quite fine for me !

Anyways , i just uploaded a "more proper" fix (1.0.2) , see if this one works out for you

On 9/7/2018 at 10:29 PM, zerosleepless said:

The gap was a lot more tedious to fix , i have absolutely no idea why it was there to begin with , and tried many other bodies , including the default one , and the ones you suggested like the giant cloth one, the high poly , hdt ...... none of them worked at all , had to manually sculpt the genital gap area willy-nilly to close it.

Hello,

If you have not find any clue on the gap issue yet, I know one that MIGHT be relevant to this issue.

Have you ever used Outfitstudio for adjusting the mesh? The issue I know is based on the 'reference skeleton' issue (mismatch) of BS/ OS. While the female and male skeleton looks similar (the same in bone numbers), there are some differences in xyz coodinate of bones in the especially on the crotch/ genital area. By default this is set as female (for LE: Bodyslide\res\skeleton_female_sk.nif), but you can change the setting by opening BS>Settings (right-downside, next to Outfitstudio icon)>Reference Skeleton.

Many outfits mods are adjusted in female skeletons in spite of the fact that they are for male, and the attempt of  'schlongify'ing the wearer with the genital mesh (adjusted to the male skeleton) will cause the skeleton gender mismatch between the outfitbody (female) and the genital that end in the genital gap in such cases.

Change OS's reference skeleton from female to male (skeleton_male_sk.nif) via BS, and import the equipment mesh in OS and export again will change the mesh's hidden 'reference' skeleton and fix the gap issue.

And then, however, another issue will rise: RefurbMadness's front side loincloth is based on BSDarkschneider's skimpy interactive loincloth's weight painting that are fine tuned for female skeleton (I know this problem since I also use his mesh/ painting in VLSIMU). Switching the reference skeleton from female to male will result in the serious disfuction of the interactive front side cloth (Just try. Unless you set the girth of the wearer's schlong over 6-7 inches, the cloth will move far over on the actual schlong),

tl;dr Your manual method is probably the safest way to reconcile with this kind of dillemma.

4 hours ago, y_sengaku said:

 

Hello,

If you have not find any clue on the gap issue yet, I know one that MIGHT be relevant to this issue.

Have you ever used Outfitstudio for adjusting the mesh? The issue I know is based on the 'reference skeleton' issue (mismatch) of BS/ OS. While the female and male skeleton looks similar (the same in bone numbers), there are some differences in xyz coodinate of bones in the especially on the crotch/ genital area. By default this is set as female (for LE: Bodyslide\res\skeleton_female_sk.nif), but you can change the setting by opening BS>Settings (right-downside, next to Outfitstudio icon)>Reference Skeleton.

Many outfits mods are adjusted in female skeletons in spite of the fact that they are for male, and the attempt of  'schlongify'ing the wearer with the genital mesh (adjusted to the male skeleton) will cause the skeleton gender mismatch between the outfitbody (female) and the genital that end in the genital gap in such cases.

Change OS's reference skeleton from female to male (skeleton_male_sk.nif) via BS, and import the equipment mesh in OS and export again will change the mesh's hidden 'reference' skeleton and fix the gap issue.

And then, however, another issue will rise: RefurbMadness's front side loincloth is based on BSDarkschneider's skimpy interactive loincloth's weight painting that are fine tuned for female skeleton (I know this problem since I also use his mesh/ painting in VLSIMU). Switching the reference skeleton from female to male will result in the serious disfuction of the interactive front side cloth (Just try. Unless you set the girth of the wearer's schlong over 6-7 inches, the cloth will move far over on the actual schlong),

tl;dr Your manual method is probably the safest way to reconcile with this kind of dillemma.

Is HDT required?